Relief for those advanced in age or sick

I first did this post several years ago and now am trying update it. I have removed a few that are now out- fantastic, and sadly, a few that died during the pandemic. If you are interested in writing any of these gentlemen or advocating for them, please contact me at pgswan3@aol.com or visit the DOC website : https://appsdoc.wi.gov/lop/home.do; which will give you their current location. 

Ron Schilling 32219, KMCI

born 1951,in since 1976

Ron Schilling

 

                                                                                       

Born In 1951, Ron Schilling is now 70 and has been incarcerated since 1976, 42 plus years. He killed a man during a drug deal gone bad. There is good reason to believe that he was incapacitated and not aware of what he was doing at the time of the crime, (see his letter) but he has never shied away from taking responsibility for the death. He has served his time well, staying clear of major conduct reports and earning several advanced degrees while PEL grants were still available. He is a fine musician, poet, and litigator and an inspiration to those around him.

Ron was granted parole in 2006 by Leonard Wells until he became victim of the new tough on crime rhetoric that also cost Leonard Wells his job. Both his co-defendants were released long ago.

As you know, when Ron was sentenced, the judge knew that a life sentence meant he would serve 13 % years and if his behavior was good, would be released at that time. It is well past time for parole for Ron Schilling. He still has good years left and is needed by his daughter and 3 grandchildren. He can be in their lives finally. He has much to give our troubled world and we need him.

" Mr Schilling has a keen mind and a good heart. If he is not a successful candidate for restoration to the community, then no one on my caseload could possibly be!"

Quote by Penny Adrian, Ron's Social Worker at Jackson correctional Institution-written in support of his parole bid in 2000. 

Ben Sanders

Ben Sanders, Jr. #056262 FLCI

1. Name and Number: Ben Sanders, Jr. #056262
2. Birth date (BD) : 6-15-46 /Age Now: 72 years old
3. Date & age at incarceration: 6-12-1973 age 25
4. Years in prison: 45 years and 11 months
5. Offense description: two counts of first degree murder
6. Length of sentence: two life sentences
7. Current Prison: Fox Lake Correctional Institution
8. MR/PMR Date: Not Applicable
9. Original parole eligibility date: Sept. 1994
10. Programs taken: AODA, Anger Management, Criminal Thinking., Human Relations, Attitude Program, Critical Incident/Problem Solving, Recidivism Work Shop,
Associate Degree, Production Welding, Custodial Services,
11. Number of parole hearings/ number and length of deferments: 10 parole hearings. The order of defers in months: 24; 48; 24; 24; 24; 24; 24; 24; 48; 48.
The above defers are from Sept. 1994 through Jan.2017
12. Official reason for denial/deferment: The nature of the crime and not having served sufficient time for punishment.
13. Do you have a verifiable support system? (Release support needs): Yes. My brothers and
sisters have pledged to assist me both financially and with housing to help me make a
successful transition back into society

Statement (couple paragraphs) See back of page
Forty-Five years ago, I was a foolish man, now I am 72 years old, wiser, and a more compassionate man, who only wants to try and make a difference in the lives of our troubled youth and give something positive back to society. I realize that the pain and suffering I have caused, can never be undone But should there be a time for healing and compassion.. I am not a risk to the Public. I am terminally ill, and I have done everything I can in a Correctional setting to make myself a better person. I would like to spend my last days giving back to society. Thank you in advance for any consideration you may give this request.

 

Carl McDaniel
536012
NLCI , PO Box 4000,New Lisbon WI 53950

Carl McDaniel

Carl's is a very complex story and FFUP has been advocating for him for along time. Basically , the DOC has not the means to address his medical needs, denies those needs and forces Carl into constant litigation. He has PTSD and and enormous amount of serious conditions and all get worse as the stress mounts. 

Here is one shout out FFUP did to try to get him accommodations that would help. To view this old shout out and see other documents, click here: "murder  by deliberate indifference"

http://www.prisonforum.org/2018/09/carl-mc-daniel-victim-of-murder-by.html

James Schultz

   

An Update to the James R. Schultz Case

Green County, Wisconsin, Case No. 85-CR-234

James R. Schultz 08151

Jackson Correctional Institution P.O. Box 233

Black River Falls, WI 54615-0233

James Schultz 2021
BD 1949

   I was found guilty of 1st degree intentional murder in the first half of a bifurcated (Not Guilty and Not Guilty by Reason of Mental Disease or Defect - NGI) trial. This was an accident, but my counsel insisted on my entering a MGI plea.

   There was no "intent" to commit murder. I was sleeping when my wife came home. How did I know she would go into the garage first, before going into the house?

   Nancy Schultz was not dead at the scene. The first law enforcement officer on the scene did not do CPR on her. The EMT contributed to her death by improper

intubation of the breathing tube. The tube was placed in her throat into her stomach instead of into her trachea (lungs). Nancy Schultz did not die of carbon monoxide asphyxiation; she died of plain suffocation from improper intubation, a new autopsy report should be ordered and conducted, independently, by someone other than a student of pathology (the study of disease).

   I could not refute the "intent" element because it was a bifurcated trial - that evidence is presented in the second phase of trial. I withdrew my plea before the second phase began because it was an accident, period, as I testified to during the first phase.

    However, the Court refused to correct my Judgment of Conviction (the document that states my plea, the jury verdict, and the sentence) to what actually happened in Court - i.e. that I was found guilty in the first half of an MGI trial and that I withdrew my plea before the second phase began.

Shouldn't the document that holds me in prison

reflect what actually happened in Court?

Also, the following is an update of my parole actions:

9/25/18    18 month defer from  Parole Commissioner turned into a 24 month defer

11/22/16 9/9/14 8/23/11 7/29/09 7/17/07 8/2/05 7/30/03 4/23/99  from--the-Chairperson.   

     24 month defer 24 month defer 24 month defer 24 month defer 24 month defer 24 month defer 24 month defer 48 month defer 

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/james-schultz-heart-attack.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/james-schultz-release-bidall.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/james-schultz-release-main.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/james-schultz.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/james-schultz.pdf

Gary Zimmerman 239885, OCI. 80 YO,
https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/gary-zimmerman-1-22-19.pdf

Gary Zimmerman

Parole Eligibility Date:  12/15/2019

Mandatory Release/Extended Supervision Date:  06/26/2054

 Verdell D Miles 3383. RGCI ,
69 YO;Age at time of offenses-33
crime:Murder PTAC, armed robbery PT
Has served 36 years 10 months no conduct reports since 2010

see docs for more

Verdell D Miles

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/verdell-d-miles-3383.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/verdell-d-miles-3383all.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/verdell-d-miles-profile-3383.pdf

click to read story- typing coming

Verdell Miles 2021 BD 1949

click to read story-

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/verdell-miles-comprel.pdf

Rueben G May ( 59 but ill)
https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2019/05/reuben-g-may-comprel-and-parole-story.pdf

Reuben May

STEVEN J. EARSLEY

361859 / RGCI, P.O. Box 925, Redgranite, WI 54970

To whom it may concern:

1.   Steven J. Earsley

2.   10/18/1953, age now: 65

3.   Date & Age at Incarceration:10/29/98, age then: 44

4.   Served 21 years to date

5.   94310(2)(d)-Burglary

940.31(1)(b)-Kidnapping

940.225(2)(a)-2nd Deg. Sex Assault 948.07(1)-Child enticement

6.   Sentence was 125 years

7.   Redgranite Correctional Institution

8.   My MR is in 2081

9.   My first Parole is 4 July 2029

10. I have completed the following:

Cognitive Intervention / CGIP 1-11(1999)

Anger Management (4/21/2000)

Mental Health I-II

Emotional Trauma program

Thinking for change

Long Term Incarceration Course

Hospice Care (4/25/2013)

13. I served--20 years in the US Army and will be housed at VA Care Home,and my two sons will also help me with any living issues that arise.

I am bound to my wheelchair with an Oxygen tank as I have COPD Lev-4 (the last level before death). I have had several heart inplants/stints and am diabetic with poor health issues trying to gain compassionate release. Thank you in advance for your help in this matter.

Best,

  

August Klitzka

August Klitzka 140681, OSCI

born 1955,	64
This is all we have from him thus far- have written: “a friend of mine found out that I didn’t  have a source of income because I am disabled. He subsequently gave me your name and  address; and mentioned that you may be able to help me out with some stamped envelopes,  paper and pens. If you can help me out in some way, it will be greatly appreciated.  Thank you, August Klitzka.

Ronald Schmidt

REQUEST POR SERIOUS RELEASE: CONSIDERATION

Governor Tony Evers, his transition teem and staff:

1, Ronald James Schmitt - Register No. 36239

2. D.O.B. 10/13/1943 on 10-13-2018 I turned 75 years old

3. I was 26 years old in 1969 at time of my original incarceration.I was 33 years old in 1986 at time of my current 59 year sentence: 

4. Since 1969 I've served a total of 47 years. On my current 59 year sentence I served 33 years (1986-2019) Since my sentence pre-dates the Truth-In-Sentencing 'I’m eligible for parole after serving 25% of sentence per-Wis. Statue § 304, 06(1) (b)

   I've served over twice the amount of tine (45%) set forth by this State Statue stated above.

5. 1986: Two counts of first degree sexual assault, and one count of mask armed robbery:

6. Sentenced to two consecutive terms of 22, 22, and 15 years, for a total of 59 years:

7. I reside at a medium security prison, at the Stanley Correctional Institution: I have maintained "medium-security" status over the past twenty (20) years now:

8. My Mandatory Release Date is 716/2026. By 7-6-2019, I'll have 7 years loft to serve:

9. My original parole eligibility date was 8-12-2001: Some eighteen (18) years ago:

10. In 2001 and 2005 I received 48-month. deferment: Between .2009-2018 I received eleven (11) consecutive 12-month deferments Since 2009, totaling 13 deferments since 2001: On 2/11/2019 I expect to receive my fourteenth (14) deferments with no end in sight:

11. The three standard reasons, for stamping of my many deferments follows;

 1. Past criminal history (which will never change)..

 2. Not having served enough time for "punishment." and,

 3. Release would involve an unreasonable risk to the public:

12. I have completed every program made available to me, and some not made available to me (some two and three times) while earning 94 Certificates:

Despite adversity, I survived due to my strong traits of perseverance/

tenacity coupled with virtue which means everything,1 prevailed and reached every one of my goals:

13. Last major Conduct Report on file was in 1989 (some 30 years ago). 14. I have favorable parole plans to live with my sister Judy Yates and family in Wagoner, South Carolina.

The "threshold" and factors which are significant are the following:

(1) Stable residency:

(2) Christian guidance:

(3) Financial independence, with about $8000.00 in my savings account, I've earned enough Social "Security credits to get about $1000.00 a month, and I can get VA benefits, medical, etc. And,

(4) Health Social Life Environments, with positive-enhancing leisure time activities:

My Value Doesn't Decrease Based Upon My Parole commissioners Inability to See My Worth. I pray that I won't run out of life before I run out of what time I have left to serve, so I that I can die at home with loved ones.

 Please Governor Evers don't let my success story go to my grave with me. There is no “wrong" time to do what is "right the interest of justice. 

Dennis Hohol

 David Hohol 436152, NLCI (75)

 

Most Old law Prisoners are not dangerous/Crime declines with age

Crime reduces with age

Here we intend to show why giving a true second chance to old law prisoner is in the
best interest of the DOC and the taxpayer, and the public at large

1) Old law inmates are all over thirty in the main are not dangerous.

a) Studies show that most non corporate crime is committed by people under thirty. Period. A recent and incredibly detailed study by the ACLU went state by state to get data and found that after 30, the percentage of prisoners to reoffend was 6 %, after 55 it dropped to zero. This and studies by the FOB and other organizations showing similar findings need to be given much consideration when deciding whether an mature or elderly inmate, once violent, is still a danger. People change. All old law prisoners are over thirty (crimes committed 15 plus years ago) and about a third of our nearly three thousand old law prisoners are over 55. Many are fathers, grandfathers.

Crime Declines Precipitously With AGE for ALL Crimes Research has conclusively shown that long before age 50, most people have outlived the years in which they are most likely to commit crimes. Even when examining data on arrests that may not lead to conviction or indicate guilt, this holds true. For example, the figure below shows the percentage of individuals arrested nationally by age in 2004. Less than6% of individuals ages 3 0-3 4 were arrested ( nearly 14 % for 19 year olds), whereas a little over 2% of individuals ages 50-54 were arrested and almost 0% of those age 65 and older were arrested. This trend of decreasing crime rates from adulthood to old age has held constant overtime, as shown by the 1979 arrest curve.

Here is a quote from the Pew Charitable Fund(2012) on the subject:

"Researchers have consistently found that age is one of the most significant predictors of criminality, with criminal or delinquent activity peaking in late adolescence or early adulthood and decreasing as a personages. Older offenders are less likely to commit additional crimes after their release than younger offenders. Studies on parolee recidivism find the probability of parole violations also decreases with age, with older parolees the least likely group to be re-incarcerated. A 1998 study found that only 3.2 percent of offenders 55 and older

returned to prison within a year of release, compared with 45 percent of offenders 18 to 29 years old.21

Likewise, a 2004 analysis of people sentenced under federal sentencing guidelines found that within two years of release the recidivism rate among offenders older than 50 was only 9.5 percent compared with a rate of 35.5 percent among offenders younger than 22. Given these statistics, releasing some elderly inmates before the end of their sentence poses a relatively low risk to the public."

Another reason to reevaluate the "risk to the public" of old law prisoners:

VIOLENT CRIMINALS vs prisoners convicted of a violent crime
vs old law prisoners.

When Truth in Sentencing came in and in order to receive the VOTIS money, WI had to certify that it was keeping "violent Offenders in" and that it had enough violent offenders to qualify for the funds. ALL old law prisoners were swept under that appellation when in truth, many offenders were guilty of being "party to a violent

crime" or were part of non violent crimes,( drugs etc). We have many people classified as "convicted of a violent crime" who were not "violent offenders" and never wielded a weapon nor hurt anyone physically. On the face of it, it wouldn't appear to be much of a distinction, but whether a person has ever actually physically harmed someone by their actions is huge as it relates to risk to the community. In an open records request response the DOC acknowledged that of the 2887 old law prisoners ,"957 are serving a sentence for a violent crime," instead of labeling them "violent offenders."

We believe that the above information and the data from many studies showing dramatic risk reduction with increased age, gives the DOC a mandate to change present PAC rules to eliminate the power of the parole commission to use overly subjective criteria. With the addition to the hearing of advocates and other testimony from those who know the prisoner and can testify pro and con, the parole deciders will have the broad view needed to accurately and fairly assess the inmate's readiness and the rehabilitated prisoners will be released to society where they belong.

PARDONS APPLIED FOR AND DENIED IN 2020 by Governor Evers> There is no pardon for prisoners in Wisconsin

These are pardon requests sent in to the governor at the height of the pandemic in 2020.The result?Governor Evers made it impossible for prisoners to obtain a pardon .One must be out of prison for at least 5 years now before a pardon is possible. 

prisoner's stories and arguments in support of release are below:

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/gerald-mark-niemi-waivers.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/ray-anthony-hampton-waiverns.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/adam-d-fields-waiverns.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/manfred-philipp-weisgerber-waiverns.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/michael-dean-johnson-waiverns.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/jammie-louis-yerks-waiverns.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/anthony-rivera-waiverns.pdf

sent 4 22?

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/alphonso-crump.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/anthony-gage-meyer.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/anthony-p-heard-.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/brien-romell-vance.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/christopher-sannon-shingleton.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/dakota-jourdan.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/dennis-lee-hohol.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/derrick-howard.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/donald-c-goal-jr.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/eugene-crisler-waiverns-1.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/glenn-l-tayor.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/jairo-e-ramos.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/james-foote-.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/james-l-steinhoff.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/jarvis-booker.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/jorge-meddina-patino.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/jose-antonio-vegal.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/justin-silvio-meyer-waiverns-1.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/latrez-kenone-willis.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/olivas-porfiro.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/patrick-william-rogers.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/rayshun-d-woods.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/stephen-fisher-.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/toney-l-strumpert-waiverns-1.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/troy-alan-laufenberg-waiverns-1.pdf

https://ffupstuff.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/victorino-benitez.pdf

2019 _)ST GUT PUNCHED, a Promise Betrayed

NO Prisoners will be paroled by Governor Evers: June 26th 2019 Post

No prisoners will be eligible for pardon under Tony Evers’ new pardon advisory board guidelines. Governor Evers and Mandela Barnes made it seem like the parole board would bring long-awaited relief to incarcerated people. While revealing the order creating the board, they made statements and social media posts about Wisconsin's high incarceration rate and told the press “we believe in forgiveness and the power of redemtion” which made headlines across the state. Unfortunately, that forgiveness does not extend as far as it might seem.

You don’t have to look beyond the first page of Governors Evers’ newpardon application to see the betrayal. After a year of talking about dramatically reducing prison population and then months of back and forth between the governor’s transition team and the public; and after hundreds of prisoners submitted their heart-rending stories about indefinite delay of release, the new pardon application comes out with these fateful words:

“Eligibility: You are eligible for a pardon only if all of the following conditions apply to you:
1. You are seeking a pardon for a Wisconsin felony conviction.
2. You have completed your entire sentence at least five (5) years ago. This means you:
a. Completed all confinement; and
b. Completed supervised release (e.g., probation, parole, or extended supervision).”
website containing pardon application: https://evers.wi.gov/Pages/pardon-information.aspx

NO PRISONERS ARE ELLIGIBLE FOR PARDON. 

So, who benefits here? Those who are past supervision (not “on paper”) already can vote. The pardon does not expunge the record, it does allow firearms but after five years out an ex prisoner gains little benefit from the pardon. Prison population will certainly not be reduced with this limitation.

Notes from April parole commission staff meeting.

 Main take-aways for organizers (read full notes for details):

• increasing housing resources, and making old law prisoners / the commission aware of them for re-entry planning will help get people out. 
• there is a way that some old law people can access the expanded earned release program
• future parole commission staff meetings will include limited opportunities for public to ask questions. 
  

All the parole commissioners and records staff were present at the meeting. There were also two people from the DOC office of victim services in attendance, as well as 7 people from the public and/or advocacy organizations.

It was a very breif meeting, about 20 minutes after attendence was taken. Topics discussed include: person-first language, narrative section of hearing reports, changes to earned release, the national parole conference in June, release planning, in-person hearings, and transparency.

 

Parole Commission Meeting Notes, March 2021

Parole Commissioner Doug Drankiewicz on the zoom call.

Parole Commission Chair John Tate II started this month's zoom meeting with great concern that members of the public may be able to unmute themselves and interrupt the meeting. Apparently something was different with the settings from previous meetings. 

After working that out, Tate asked that everyone on the call identify themselves, particularly members of the public who didn't have names up on the zoom because they were just calling in, or had chosen not to insert their names. I don't know why this was important. If I remember correctly back when the monthly meetings happened in person, Tate only did this roll call thing the one time we turned out so many people they had to move the meeting to a larger room.

Anyway, there were about ten people on the call who were not PC staff, which is more than last month, and I suspect this influenced the way things went at the meeting.

February 10 Parole Commission Staff Meeting

Commission Chair John Tate II and new commissioner Shannon Pierce

 

The WI Parole Commission had a staff meeting via zoom today. They have only had three of these meetings since March 4, 2020 (when the pandemic began).

The meeting was breif as usual and John Tate II did not allow public comment, or questions, not even the zoom chat was available to participants. Nevertheless, I was able to glean a little bit of insight from it.

John Tate Defers Extraordinary Release Responsibilty to DOC

Write to Terry:

Terry Jackson
121898
Stanley Correctional Institution
100 Corrections Drive
Stanley, WI 54768-6500


April 17,2020 / Fri / 3:47 pm

JOHN TATE FAILED TO MAKE A DECISION IN EXECUTIVE 31 PETITION AND DUCKED HIS DESIGNATED RESPONSIBILITY AND PASSED THE DESIGNATED RESPONSIBILITY TO KAREN HAN WHO IS NO LONGER FUNCTIONING AS A PAROLE COMMISSIONER AT THE RISK OF LIFE AND DEATH WITH CORONA VIRUS SPREADING IN THE STATE OF WISCONDIN AND PRISONS IN WISCONSIN


Mr. Jackson filed a EXECUTIVE 31 PETITION July 23, 2019 and sent it to  Warden Reed Richarson office for determination whether Jackson was statutorily eligible and once Mr. Richardson determined that Jackson was statutorily eligible, Mr. Richardson secretary forwarded this petition to Mr. John Tate II (Chairperson) in October 2019 as confirmed by the Warden secretary to Mr. Jackson family that she told this to over the phone. From that confirmation the petition had been in Mr.Tate II possession at least seven months.

On April 16, 2020  Mr. Jackson finally received a response to his petition  from Karen Han that was dated April 8, 2020 and not the Chairperson. Mr. Tate II is the Chairperson and the only person that has been designated by rule to make decision in Executive  31 petitions.

The petition was stamped received July 30, 2019 which is inconceivable because the petition was not sent by the Warden Secretary to Mr. Tate II  until October 2019 (two months after Mr. Jackson sent the petition to the Warden.) Mr. Jacob Walters (parole commissioner)

It's confirmed, Danielle LaCost is back and terrible as ever.

Message from inside:

They did some parole hearings here at Stanley today via CCTV and it was LaCost that did the hearings. I thought that she was supposed to be gone. Do you have any information as to whether or not this woman is leaving? There has got to be a way to get rid of her!! One of the guys that went in front of her today had gotten a 10 month defer from Landreman, with an endorsement to do the welding program. Right after he started the program they had some staff issues so he was put on hold. Now they have restarted it. Today, LaCost  gave him an 8 month defer, and an endorsement to secure minimum. Her reasons that she used for not granting parole was, he has an obligation to the welding program which is 5 or 6 months, insufficient time, COVID-19 because the jobs that are out there are for the people that have been laid off not for people being released from prison, and because he still owes restitution. He has been down for 25 years on a 50 year sentence. This woman has got to go, she is so hellbent on keeping us locked up. I go for my third time in August. I've been down 21 years on a 50 year prison bid. I do not want to go in front of this evil woman again. How do we get rid of her?!!

Wait, go back and read that again.

Danielle LaCost is using COVID-19 as a reason to keep people IN PRISON.

She openly stated that she was denying release because:

1. the prison needs his underpaid labor to do welding.

2. she doesn't want him competing with other people for jobs in this economy.